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(To ALL) this board... Posted By: MACK! In Response To: Re: double negatives (Leif Jones)
Hi Leif,
I hope you are doing well. I want you to know that I appreciate your posts and point of view. I understand and am familiar with much of what you are speaking about, but I feel compelled to put my own point of view on this board.
This is originally posted much lower as the most recent response to Andy's PEACE thread of posts. It is not meant as a response to your post. But I figured it may be appropriate for me to include my perspective of the function of this board near the top of the board where people can see it.
While I don't consider my view necasarily in conflict with yours, I felt it appropriate for me to mention some of my own specific ways of looking at this. Even if you disagree with them, I hope that it doesn't change our relationship as people and collaborators, because I very much respect you as a person and as an artist and hopefully even a friend. I've learned from your artwork in the past, and I still plan for both of us to collaborate in the future. If you want to, you are welcome to e-mail me personally. Of course I also still welcome you to this baord, was delighted to see you here, and encourage you to continue posting on it.
Below is part of Andy's recent post from the PEACE thread and my response to it about this board:
: If you really must, keep posting regarding this but do
: And please keep in mind the message boards ARE for David
: Andy Lee
I appreciate Andy's comments and concerns. But I continue to encourage people to post about all their concerns about the recent events. Please do not limit your posts to me or my work. This is the time for us to unite together. You are welcome to continue to speak about your creative interests (I know that is the best way for some people to cope in a time like this). But we must also realize that this is a very serious time in our history and this message board is an open forum for us to discuss it. For some people it is their only way to communicate about this sort of thing, and I will not deny anyone their right to communicate about whatever they need to.
This week has been a wake up call that we are in a new era.
We have finally begun to realize that there are people who hate us not for our policies, but for who we are. They hate us for what we stand for. They hate our freedom. They hate our country for being a beacon for that freedom, and diversity. The hate us for our separation of church and state. To them that separation of church and state is an evil. To them our freedoms are an evil. They hate that our country encourages that freedom of thought. They hate our creative endeavors. They hate our books, our films, our culture, the fact that we have the freedom to create these things, and the fact that these things encourage the rest of the world to have these freedoms. They hate our impact on the world. To them these freedoms are an evil. You must also understand that THIS is not the Muslim religion. It is a twisted perversion of it. I have many friends who are Muslim and they are great freedom loving people. The group that did this is masking their madness as religion. They are masking their true mad designs as a so called "preservation of their way of life" in the same way that Hitler did.
It is true that they are upset that we aid Israel and "the Jews". It is true that they are upset that we have our troops in Saudi Arabia to help them. The U.S. does have controversial policies. But they hate us for much more than that. They only call Israel the "little Satan". They call us the "big Satan". They believe that our freedoms, the crux of our constitution, our separation of church and state, and our aid to our friends are evil. And to me, this recent terrorist act has completely negated any possible validity that these people may have previously had in any of their arguments.
It is true that U.S. policy has had many problems, and a complicated morality in certain past events. I will be the first to admit that. And in this country we have the right to vote on how to change and refine that policy. And we have. But now is not the time to squabble over past controversies. Now is the time for the free and civilized world to unite.
We must understand that this is not a one time event. These people are ALREADY waging war on us. They have been for years. They will continue to do so. There may have been 50 of them on the APPLICATION end of this attack. But there are MUCH more than that who plan to continue this.
Does anyone think for a second that if these people had a nuclear bomb that they would hesitate to use it on us if they could? They have no problem with that. And they are trying to do it. They are working on larger scale attacks. That is what they live (and die) for. They have the intentions to destroy us. This is not the old kind of terrorist act where you kill a few people to get attention and then claim responsibility and then ask for some country to change its policy or release a political prisoner from Jail. These are acts where you simply kill as MANY people as you possibly can and then try to do it again and again because you think that you are right and your enemies beliefs are evil.
They have the will to destroy ALL of us. The U.S. and the entire FREE WORLD. They have the will to destroy us but they do not yet have the way. But they are working on the way, and if not immediately dealt with, they will eventually find it.
This is a wake up call far larger than Pearl Harbor was. If there was ever a time to unite behind a common cause, this is it.
I am a very loving person. I will be as kind and giving to people as I possibly can. Even when someone is rude or hostile to me, I will still be loving to them, and usually they
But if someone threatens my loved ones with violence, that is a brand new ball game. And it is one that I’m going to win. If someone threatens my loved ones (in word or deed) I’m not going to wait for the next violent threat, or violent act. I am going to act. And I am going to act decisively. I’m not going to talk about it before or after. I am going to do it.
If someone makes it clear that it is either me or them, then there is really no more to discuss after that.
I like to think that we are all cells in the same organism. That all living things are part of the same network. I think that by helping each other, we are helping the entire network, we are helping the bigger organism of all of us. It makes me feel great to know that I can help others.
But sometimes cells in an organism go cancerous. And if you do nothing, that cancer will kill the other cells until it kills the entire organism. Your only hope is to remove those cancerous cells as soon as possible.
We have to think of the ENTIRE world in an unselfish and non-arrogant way. We have to preserve the entire organism.
This is the worst single mass murder attack not just in the history of America, but in the history of the world.
I hope everyone in the world will unite (on every level) in helping those that are already affected by this, but also unite in protecting the people of the world against this terrorism and preserving the FREEDOMS that so many have already died for.
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