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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

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But lately, the big two just haven't been doing it. Over the past 18 months I have discontinued reading any DC book (including Vertigo, ABC, Wildstorm, etc) That is about 10 titles I dropped from DC, and about 8 from Marvel


Ron, have you read Birds of Prey by Gail Simone? It is my favorite DC book, and the only Bat title I read. (And one of about 5 DC titles I read at all.)

now that you're working at a shop, can you rad the titles? If so, I'd suggest giving it a try. It's daramatic, funny, action packed... uhm, really cool...? it's a lot of fun.

That's all. I'll stop hijacking your post now! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

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But then we'd have nothing but the same old same old all the time.

While it would suck to see Mystique cancelled, I've enjoyed every page of it while it's around. Same with She Hulk. The fault is not in having different titles out there. The fault is in not marketing the books properly. And that encompasses a genre wide problem. The publishers should have coop advertising programs in place for retailers, and about a dozen other things to help grow not only the audience for their own books, but the industry as a whole.

I'd much rather have Mystique for 18 issues with a chance to catch on than not at all.


I don't think so at all. Marvel could put out something that people have acutally been asking for like ghost rider. People have been screaming for a good ghost rider for years. And with that beautiful templesmith art it only made people want to see it even more. Marvel's response was 'we have no plans at this time....' blah blah blah

Instead, we get Jubilee. WTF?!

Bendis proved with Alias/The Pulse, that you can do something different and introduce characters that do not have an established story.

Marvel's RE-LOAD caused me to drop every X-book except for mystique and ultimate. It was just too much too soon, and I said 'fuck it.' Not only have I save lots of money by avoiding that whole corner of Marvel, but I found myself growing tired of the titles I was reading (Amazing Spider-man got dropped, New X-Men, Emma Frost, and a few others)

What I did, instead, was go for titles that I never read before (hopped on Avengers with Austen, hopped on Thor with Oeming, hopped on Captain America with Kirkman. ) Am enjoying Iron Man, Supreme Power, Daredevil, and a few others.

But lately, the big two just haven't been doing it. Over the past 18 months I have discontinued reading any DC book (including Vertigo, ABC, Wildstorm, etc) That is about 10 titles I dropped from DC, and about 8 from Marvel.

Lately have been reading a lot of indi/small press books and OGN's from companies like ONI.


In contrast, I checked out the reload books. Kept buying the ones I liked. Stopped buying the ones I didn't. Enjoying ASM as well.

And don't get me wrong, I love Ghost Rider. But Ellis or no Ellis, I'd be very suprised if it has any kind of staying power as a title. It's just a tough sell for folks who aren't already fans of it.

Same with Moon Knight or whatever. The internet is a very vocal segment of the marketplace. But it's not a solid indicator of the marketplace as a whole. If it were, you wouldn't have had bad news to post about She Hulk, District X, or Mystique.
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

kubiak wrote:
Ron T. wrote:
But lately, the big two just haven't been doing it. Over the past 18 months I have discontinued reading any DC book (including Vertigo, ABC, Wildstorm, etc) That is about 10 titles I dropped from DC, and about 8 from Marvel


Ron, have you read Birds of Prey by Gail Simone? It is my favorite DC book, and the only Bat title I read. (And one of about 5 DC titles I read at all.)

now that you're working at a shop, can you rad the titles? If so, I'd suggest giving it a try. It's daramatic, funny, action packed... uhm, really cool...? it's a lot of fun.

That's all. I'll stop hijacking your post now! Very Happy


It's my favorite DC book too. And while it's technically a bat book...it's not really a bat book per se.
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

Hi Ron,
Thanks for mentioning the new Kabuki in that! Yay, I'm in the top 100!

Where did you get those #s? Is that an estimated #? Or maybe a premature # at a date cutoff before all the orders were in?

My sales date is a little different. I have the initial advance orders at 30,000 (but retailers were still allowed to continue ordering right up until print time).
And actually have a bunch more re-orders on top of that, so I actually printed quite a bit more to accomodate the re-orders that came in after the cut off date for the initial advance orders.
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

YEAH, THANKS AND ALL, BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE WRONG.

i know they are fun to look at and they are someone right in relation to each other, but there are low by 10 to somnetimes 20 per cent. whih is huge if doing lists like this.

plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

Where does Newsarama get this info?

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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

JRChapoy wrote:
Where does Newsarama get this info?

-JRC

Fromt The Pulse, which is where the link goes Wink
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

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plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.


Definitely. I can't tell you how much money my store alone (B&N) is now pulling in graphic novel wise. 3x higher than what it was a little over a year ago.

RC
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

Dammit. Captain America and the Falcon is just ahead of some of these titles that are predicted to be cancelled. Another Priest book might be on the chopping block soon.
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

NickThompson wrote:
JRChapoy wrote:
Where does Newsarama get this info?

-JRC

Fromt The Pulse, which is where the link goes Wink


thats funny...I meant the Pulse...they used to be the samething anyway
Laughing

I always thought that Diamond and the publishers weren't too keen on just giving out data like this....

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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

Yeah,
My sales Data from Marvel and Diamond is different than this (and better! Smile

But I'm happy to be in the top 100 in this list!

And thanks for mentioning me.


So you work at a shop now, Ron?
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

RangerChic wrote:
BENDIS! wrote:
plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.


Definitely. I can't tell you how much money my store alone (B&N) is now pulling in graphic novel wise. 3x higher than what it was a little over a year ago.

RC


Wish I had a B&N like this here...everytime I go by there the TPB section gets a little smaller...(and the Manga section is 3X what it used to be)

-JRC
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

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YEAH, THANKS AND ALL, BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE WRONG.

i know they are fun to look at and they are someone right in relation to each other, but there are low by 10 to somnetimes 20 per cent. whih is huge if doing lists like this.

plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.
is there anyplace we can see the correct numbers?
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

JRChapoy wrote:
RangerChic wrote:
BENDIS! wrote:
plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.


Definitely. I can't tell you how much money my store alone (B&N) is now pulling in graphic novel wise. 3x higher than what it was a little over a year ago.

RC


Wish I had a B&N like this here...everytime I go by there the TPB section gets a little smaller...(and the Manga section is 3X what it used to be)

-JRC


That's because I worked my ass off to make my store one people seek out for books. When I acquired the section a year and a half or so ago, it was a sad site.

RC
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Marvel's July sales chart-- Congrats to Bendis!!! Reply with quote

RangerChic wrote:
JRChapoy wrote:
RangerChic wrote:
BENDIS! wrote:
plus trades mean so much biz to a book that talking numbers without talking trade is having half a conversation.


Definitely. I can't tell you how much money my store alone (B&N) is now pulling in graphic novel wise. 3x higher than what it was a little over a year ago.

RC


Wish I had a B&N like this here...everytime I go by there the TPB section gets a little smaller...(and the Manga section is 3X what it used to be)

-JRC


That's because I worked my ass off to make my store one people seek out for books. When I acquired the section a year and a half or so ago, it was a sad site.

RC


Want to transfer? Laughing

EDIT

Forgot to mention that they dont even put the Marvel digest books with the Manga stuff...they a BURY them between the big trades..(sometimes behind them)..drive me nuts!
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