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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

A couple weeks after Wolverine told this story to Echo in Daredevil, Laura Schlessinger uses it on NBC's Today Show on Jan. 6 while talking with Matt Lauer. Here's from the transcript:
Dr. SCHLESSINGER: ...women talk and we women sit and complain and we whine. And just like the Jerry Maguire movie where the women were all sitting in groups and complaining and whining and being angry and hurt, there's an interesting story that one woman wrote to me, a grandpa talking to the grandson saying, 'Grandson, there are two wolves in my head. One is angry and bitter and the other is happy and open.' And the little grandson said, 'Well, which one's going to win the fight?' And the grandpa said, 'The one I feed.' So when we think negatively, when we're constantly looking for things to pick and he didn't do this, and he didn't do that, we put ourselves in a negative state and we lose the awareness of how much power we have over the atmosphere in the house and the behavior of our men.

The moral, Wolverine is a better story teller.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

It was also in the movie The Missing. I asked Mr. Mack about this.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

I'm sure you know that Mack didn't invent that little parable. I've heard it about five hundred times before.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

I actually hadn't ever heard this before. And I asked if he had gotten it from the movie or if it was a traditional native american story as I wasn't sure.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

Gee, a "good Christian" advice bitch using Native American paraboles?
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

I enjoyed that story in Daredevil. It was good, and Mack draws a really good Wolverine.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

Zeppe wrote:
Gee, a "good Christian" advice bitch using Native American paraboles?


heh, that's funny. Smile

i hate that cunt (and i don't use that slur lightly). Dr. lara is a hateful, meddling, pious moron. She peddles her 'advice' as an absolute remedy with no real consideration for the actual people asking for help and their actual problems. She listens for 5 seconds and then makes a snap judgement (usually against the woman, since it is clearly the wife's job to keep her husband happy Rolling Eyes ) FUCK, I HATE HER!!!!!

ahem. sorry for the rant, but people like her drive me apeshit. I do love the delicious irony that little miss family values is fully estranged from her daughter. heh heh.
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

Zeppe wrote:
Gee, a "good Christian" advice bitch using Native American paraboles?

Just goes to show you how stereotyping can prevent you from seeing the truth about people.

Why can't Dr. Laura use a native american parable? Maybe she's more flexible in her thinking than you are... Confused
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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

UniversalMorpheus wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Gee, a "good Christian" advice bitch using Native American paraboles?

Just goes to show you how stereotyping can prevent you from seeing the truth about people.

Why can't Dr. Laura use a native american parable? Maybe she's more flexible in her thinking than you are... Confused


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PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Dr Laura swipes from Wolverine Reply with quote

That's great!

I had a sort of coincidental comic to TV thing like that happen before. A few years ago, when I was at a prominent LA comic store, a guy who workes at the store said, "You might like to know that Samuel L. Jackson is a big Kabuki reader. He just came in and bought all the Kabuki stuff we had and ordered more."

I thought that was great. One of the most recent Kabuki books at that time had a quote on the front cover from the Washington Times that said: "David Mack's uniquely disturbed vision".

Very soon after Samuel was on Letterman promoting Jackie Brown. And letterman asks him about Tarintino and the script. And Samuel says something along the lines of, "He has a uniquely disturbed vision".
And then all my friends phoned me and thought it was very cool.

Wether any of the Laura thing was somehow inspired from my loose interpretation of the Native American tale or wether it was directly from the original tale, I don't know, but it is a fun coincidence.

Below is the thread with Emin's question about it to me:


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Posted: Jan 12, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject: Question for Mr. Mack re: DD 55
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I just watched the movie The Missing the other day and I was wondering if this is where you got the story "Two dogs fighting" that Wolverine tells Echo. Or is this an actual Indian story. I just thought it was pretty cool that I had just read this in DD and then hear it on this movie.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2004 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Question for Mr. Mack re: DD 55
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I've never seen the Missing, so I'll try to catch it to see how they used it.

My version in Echo is my loose interpretation of an actual Native American Story.

There are many bits and pieces and structures of actual Native American Stories and actual historical and legendary Vision Quests integrated into the Echo story. It was very important to me that the story be true to the rich history and mythology of these, in story structure and spirit.

Rewardingly, I've had great feedback from the Native American readers (some artists and storytellers themselves) who recognized this and appreciated it.Back to top
 
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Posted: Jan 12, 2004 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Question for Mr. Mack re: DD 55
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That's cool. The only thing I actually remember that was the same was the "which ever one I feed the most" line. It was just a quick little scene. I figured it was an actual story, I just thought it was kind of cool so I thought I would ask.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2004 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Question for Mr. Mack re: DD 55
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Forgot to say how much I enjoyed the Echo story. This one and the first. I like the way you integrate the actual text with the art. There are times when I read the books I buy and I do not sit back and enjoy the art as much. When I read the issues you have done of DD the art is as involved in the story as the actual text.

Oh yeah and thanx for answering.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Question for Mr. Mack re: DD 55
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Thanks for the kind words!
I'm glad you liked it.
I really try to use the art as another part of the writing. I don't see the writing and the art as two seperate things. One of the great charms of telling stories in comics is that the writing and the art should be indistinguishable from each other. It's a hybrid medium. You shouldn't be able to seperate the too. The images tell the story and even the words are a part of the art and image.

If you liked the way I approached the Echo and DD stuff, take a look at my work in Kabuki. KABUKI - Metamorphosis is probably the best presentation of my work in comic books. I'd recoment picking that up first if you haven't read anything else.

It includes the approach you mentioned, but to a much more innovative degree. And it includes many other approaches that you may get a kick out of.

Kindest regards,
David
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